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Body horror in media /fear for the flesh/

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Let's go for some disgusting inspirations, shall we?

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Tokyo Gore Police

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Meatball Machine (ミート ボール マシン )

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Genocyber

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Shin Majinden Battle Royal High School

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Tetsuo: The Iron Man

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It certainly ain't body horror but I don't know in which other thread this trailer would fit, It loots like what Team Silent would make if they were stop-motion animators. Seems like Rake would dig this.

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A bit obvious, but the new Cronenberg joint, "Crimes of the Future", is a return to form for the perverted Canuck. I'm not really sure if I think it's genuinely good or not yet, as a movie, (like, say, "Eastern Promises", which was an undeniable masterpiece to me, or "Maps to the Stars", a more acquired taste but an awesome shotgun blast to the face of Hollyweird narcissists). It's pretty lazy at points, exposition-wise, as well as feeling stale at times and clinical (obviously) but the mood and atmosphere that it established stuck with me and the designs in it were great. Best ones of his career, I'd say!

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So. the movie is super gothic and kinky and full of speculative scifi that's taboo, death, surgery, and aging-related, but the big huff that a bunch of articles made about how people ran out of its screenings at film fests and vomited in the aisles in the first five minutes, etc. is PURE bullshit, likely fabricated by Croney's people themselves. Great PR! I was bracing myself for some truly boundary-pushing discomfort but I think almost everyone on here watches fucked up movies and will find this VERY tame. It's disturbing, unnerving, but not vomit-inducing. This is like when they said people ran out of "The Exorcist" because of the terror of the exorcism scenes. Except in that case, people really did but it was actually during the medical scenes, as the procedure was real and is still hard to watch! Alternatively, this movie is ALL medical scenes but they're not real procedures, they're cool insectoid, fleshy jabby things fishing out fake starfish-lookin organs out of Viggo's sloshy Halloween punchbowl of a gut. Cool, but not worthy of sputum spouting!

So yeah, imagine the premise of "Crash" (a lesser, softcore porn-masquerading-as-heady-taboo-dissection where people get off on something unusual) and "eXistenZ" (A movie not about male enhancement, but "video games" [?] and back buttholes and cool bone-guns and meandering plots and poor twist endings) except with the best aspects of both, but the worst aspects of "Spider" (namely staging that really feels like a same-y, dingy, grimy stage play set in a warehouse, rather than an actual big, immersive, cinematic world). There's good, bad, ugly, but NO pearl-clutching, vomit-y levels of ugly. It's pretentious as fuck (again...obviously) and tries too hard to shock, but it made me feel weird and interested. More than I can say for most modern movies. It was also nice to see Bonin'-berg go gross sci-fi again.

I give it a "surgery is NOT the new sex, but this movie is somehow still sexy with ZERO actual sex scenes, unlike the overrated fuck-fest. Crash" out of 10!

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That's pretty interesting, thanks for input.

I only heard that the film got released (which surprised me, as i didnt know Cronenberg is still active).
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Ol' Croney? Oh, trust me. He's still active....

Very active.

First, his torrid affair with VIggo began hot and heavy...
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...and only continued in the same manner. Bonin'-berg Alert!
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Luckily Viggo is VERY open when it comes to relationships, meaning Cronenperv could get a little side action with Michael Assbender, who has one of the more notoriously big "eXistenZes" in Hollywood. Don't believe me? Just watch the movie, Shame! Full frontal Fass-hog in that flick. Thing looks like an Evian bottle.
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Speaking of shame, however, while actors always seemed welcoming to the IT Department-looking Master of Kissing-Type Horror's sloppy, mouth-based advances (after all, what are actors, anyway, but better paid whores, switching out faking orgasms for Asian businessmen with faking emotions for the entire world?), it wasn't enough. Cronenturgid wanted to lay a smooch on one of his contemporary filmmaker peers whom he shared much in common with, Guillermo Del Taco. Unfortunately, the visionary genius and perfectly geometric globe-shaped human does NOT swing that way. Apparently the socially enlightened Frito Bandito can make a movie where a cripple who masturbates and fucks a fish, a domestically abused, sassy Madea-style black woman, and a gay as hell bald painter are the only good people in it and the villain is the equivalent of mixing together every cliche, pure evil, military bad guy character ever, combining them into one human, then throwing in John Wayne Gacy and Lucifer for good measure. Hmm...over-compensating much, El Gordo? Your obvious instinctual dodging of Crone Daddy's kiss....could that be a sign of a homophobe who makes woke fish-fucking movies to distract from your own fear of the most natural and loving thing on earth, men taking their seed that makes life when discharged into a woman through a hole that leads directly to her womb, implying its natural target, but instead discharging it into another man's waste-making area? You hate gay people and your fish movie's script was lazy. I thought you were Mexican, GDT, not black! Regardless, It' was just an attempted kiss, Del Tardo, it's not like Ol' Crone's Disease was going anywhere near your "nightmare alley".
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David wasn't as emotionally crushed as the cars were literally and the audience was with disappointment after his film, Crash, but he was severely bummed after Benicio's public rejection. It felt like a bad breakup. They'd had dinner together regularly for years and discussed their favorite films, priding themselves on their eclectic tastes. Davey remembered how GDT used to always say, while reaching for the bill to pay it, "Amigos Por La Differencia Mamito". David knew what that meant...Brothers From Different Mothers. It had touched him, and he ALWAYS let Del Tha Funkee Toro pay for every dinner they ever had, for he worried that offering to do so himself, as a white man from the frozen north, where money flows like wine, would be patronizing and offensive to a Mexican man.

Now, years after such delights, David found himself sitting on a park bench, his weeping having finally subsided. He may have lost an enormous friend, but he was glad, after recalling those memories, that AT LEAST he was on the right side of history and anti-racist during their time together, which should literally the most important thing on any one's mind who has morals. The conundrum now was....who would accept his kiss next? It turned out that VIggo wasn't as pro- polyamory as he let on, and despite Guillermo's rejection, was hurt that David had even tried and blocked him on every social media platform, even the secret one only famous people can use, called Illuminetwork. "Theres always Fassbender, that tart. A power bottom if there ever was one." David thought to himself with a subtle but devious grin that only the director of the film, "A Dangerous Method" could grin. Then he saw it. A neon digital billboard on the side of the building before him, showing news footage. Michael Fassbender was being tapped, or at least approached, to star in the film, Assassin's Creed II. Cronenberg, who literally made a career out of devising devices, beings, and creatures all with fleshy or gooey attributes intended to induce revulsion in the viewer, found himself at that moment, about to puke himself. How could Michael stoop so low? Sure, David openly would cite the first Assassin's Creed film as his film of the year that year, and genuinely thought it a masterpiece. But a sequel?

Cronen hated sequels and had never done one, despite offers. Michael, too, was now off the table. It was then that he realized...he created body horror not only to gross others out, but to work through his OWN fears through a convoluted but thus far effective form of exposure therapy. His own body disgusted him. The mystery of how and why he had it, how it worked, why and when it would fail. It trumped any unseen Lovecraftian beast god. The human body was truly the most terrifying monster because it was real...and he was trapped in it. His realization brought with it another revelation, however. To combat his fear of his own body, he had made countless films with shockingly intimate bodily carnage and mutation....but that wasn't enough. It was someone ELSE's body, or more regularly, simply a prop. He knew now that it was finally time.

Time to heal...time to treat himself for once...

Time to learn to finally love his own body, with no horror....to embrace himself.
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Linea wrote: Sun Feb 20, 2022 1:36 pm It certainly ain't body horror but I don't know in which other thread this trailer would fit, It loots like what Team Silent would make if they were stop-motion animators. Seems like Rake would dig this.
I've followed YAMIKEN since.. just before JUNK HEAD came out, when he was first advertising it.
It made me think of Yoko Taro's 3A inspired work with Nier Automata (which I haven't played yet) more than Team Silent-- Masahiro Ito's design sense is distinctly modern taking after mostly European and American artists like Francis Bacon, H.R. Giger, David Lynch, David Cronenberg.. even Isamu Noguchi (who reinforced his fascination with cages from Bacon) also has a very contemporary style.
Despite JUNK HEAD's industrial landscape, the characters remind me more of Yōkai or similar traditional Japanese folklore.

In any case, similar to JUNK HEAD I saw MAD GOD in theaters recently (which also isn't really body horror):



Aesthetically it's fairly in line with what Qish's interested in (though it's far more American), but I think I'll make a separate thread on stop-motion to discuss this style of animation and model making in general.

To get back on topic:

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Periodically I'll trawl deviantART for this specific type of freak (I'm not sure what to classify them as, it's not technically zoophilia but that's my first instinct) who make these wonderful, bizarre Photoshops (which could pass as production art for the '22 Crimes of the Future melonbread was talking about earlier) because where I want to see "body horror" go is far away from gore and medical paraphernalia into a much more fetishistic and pornographic direction (a lot of Jews like Cronenberg do this but they always makes it fucking GAY so stays in the realm of disgust like gore, I respect Cronenberg a lot though).

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I thought this design from BIO7 (which I haven't played yet) was interesting (GIANT PUSSY MONSTER, WITH TEETH!), but what I greatly disliked about it is how it's not sexualized.



The Alexia Ashford first stage transformation is one of my favorite designs from any of the BIOHAZARD games because they kept her hot, so she becomes anime bitch monster Lilith:

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More frightening to have something shifting in and out of beauty and decay.

For Qish-- I have another contribution for body horror gore:

Dante's Inferno - Gluttony

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Hate that it's wasted on this Fag of Shit/Darktarders garbage (I haven't played either) you barely even get to see it (and not in a good way). I found the concept art first, so I was disappointed to see you basically fight it like it's a building or a vehicle.

Edit: I figured out why there's such disparity between the concept art and the game. It's because Wayne Barlow did all the monster designs for Dante's Inferno and I already like his art. I actually thought it looked like him, but I thought it was someone bootlegging him rather than the real deal (I couldn't make out the signature and I didn't know what his looked like before).

I've always thought FromSoft should have put him on contract for their 'Souls games:

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However, I do like the Screaming Mad George-esq landscape-- reminds me of ParanoiaScape (I want to play this, but I haven't yet) and his "Paranoia Cafe" from the '90s:

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Rake wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:34 pm where I would want to see "body horror" go is far away from gore and medical paraphernalia into a much more fetishistic and pornographic direction
Agree.
Rake wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:34 pm BIO7 (which I haven't played yet) was interesting
Rake wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:34 pm Nier Automata (which I haven't played yet)
What would you rate them?
Rake wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:34 pm Fag of Shit/Darktarders garbage (I haven't played either)
Agree. Me neither.
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Cat wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:59 pm
Rake wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:34 pm BIO7 (which I haven't played) was interesting
Rake wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:34 pm Nier Automata (which I haven't played)
What would you rate them?
Solid 30/40 for both, imperfect but good efforts to returning games to a place of higher interest.

Anyway, I remembered another thing Qish would like that's aesthetically similar to the medical-guro he posted from Tokyo Gore Police:



(It won't fucking display 'cause of some faggot JewTube thing where it doesn't like people linking videos declared "violent" I guess, if you click on it it should work.)
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body horror is shit and I'm the king if you think otherwise face me barefisted right now
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